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The Geraldo solution

As it made the rounds of talk radio today, I thought I might add my two cents to this whole notion that we shouldn't demonize everyone who is here illegally.

Geraldo Rivera arguing that only reporting the bad things that undocumented aliens do creates intolerance and hatred towards them frustrates me. It frustrates me because the solution is not pointing out the positives about illegal immigration. The solution is to restore the positives of legal immigration, and that doesn't happen as long as anyone, regardless of their status, can reap the benefits.

What's interesting about this is, I would have less of an issue with it if it weren't the law. I could see some advantages to having an open border as long as I was as free to cross and go anywhere I pleased, too. If I didn't have to worry about passports and visas and how long I'm going to stay and declaring this or that and having that feeling in the back of my mind that if I overstayed my welcome I might spend the rest of my life rotting inside some foreign prison cell, it would be great.

I don't think it's the way anywhere else in the world. That's not to say there's not illegal immigration in other countries, but it just doesn't feel like a blind eye gets turned to it, either.

So, if it's not a big deal to just show up in the United States, get work, get benefits, fine. I guess I would still have some questions with how all that's supposed to work, but at least I wouldn't feel like it's wrong.

Believe me, I know the vast majority of those here in this country illegally are not terrorists, murderers, drug dealers or rapists. Most are hard working people with the idea of getting ahead in a country where it can happen. Something they feel is worth spending thousands of dollars and suffering untold hardships to get here, and then spending years and more suffering to pay that off because all they can do is get paid minimum wage jobs (or less) and live in fear of deportation or racism, or what have you.

But it's harder to feel sorry for someone when they've brought it upon themselves. So things back home aren't that great. How's it ever going to get better if all people do is flee it? There's only so much running you can do before you have to make a stand. Mexico is one of the richest country in terms of natural resources on this American continent. If it's government were not so corrupt and if it's people didn't feel so oppressed, feel like the law doesn't matter because no matter what you do you can't fight the power, they would be one of the wealthiest countries on earth. I believe that. However, people lose hope and instead of fighting it and living in poverty, they risk everything and come for the streets paved with gold.

Does that mean we should welcome them all with open arms?

Is it fair they should reap benefits and rights they did not help to create or truly help to maintain?

Much is made that the undocumented working class pays taxes and is a major consumer here. Because of that, they should reap the benefits of it. They should be rewarded. They should be admired for their industry rather than be accused of any wrongdoing.

Well, again, for me, the law is the law. And the lawbreaking doesn't stop there.

Entering this country illegally is only the first step.

The next is either finding an employer who requires no paperwork and pays, if they do pay their workers, under the table. These kinds of employers are getting harder and harder to find because fewer and fewer can get away with it. Not only would they be hiring workers illegally, there would be failure to pay payroll taxes, and if there's anything the government is good at, it's collecting what they feel is owed them.

So, that means illegals are being hired by reputable, taxpaying businesses.

How? Through the booming black market identification industry.

Can't work if you don't have social security numbers or alien resident cards. Since employers are fairly inept at detecting false identification, black market ID booms. Someone else's social security number gets reissued and someone's else's ID card does, too.

That's violation number two.

Violation number three is using that identification to obtain things. Work, car loans and insurance generally follow. If they're not doing it on their own, they have someone who's cosigning or helping them. A lot of transactions take place in cash. However, if someone is here illegally, they're not suppose to own a car or get a driver's license or car insurance or work.

So before anything "bad" happens, they've already violated a number of state and federal laws.

That's before a hit and run or car wreck. That's before a shooting or a stabbing. That's before a rape or drug deal.

Because they won't get health care through their employers (most don't even offer it), the undocumented don't have access to health care. They are the most likely to end up at the doctor's office when something catastrophic happens--broken bone, major illness, drug overdose, gunshot wound, what have you.

They're also the most likely to take their child to the emergency room for a severe cold that should have been treated earlier and would have had they been here legally and had access to proper care.

Those who are here illegally aren't suppose to own property. But they do. If they do, again, it was done with false identification or they had help through a family member or friend.

These kinds of things can affect the credit of others. I know. My wife has had a credit card end up on her credit report that she never applied for. It was not an error on the part of the credit card company or the credit bureau. Someone else in another state applied for a credit card with my wife's social security number.

Fortunately, we caught it and got it removed before the applicant defaulted or ran up a high credit card bill.

I believe stories like these are repeated multiple times a day.

I don't call that paranoia, hysteria or hatemongering. I call it facts.

I don't think you award bad behavior with positive incentives. I don't think you give amnesty to the majority of those who are here. If you want to be compassionate, you might consider some few exceptions. However, it should affect a very small percentage of the illegal population, not the majority.

I don't know what the easy answer is regarding children born here of illegal immigrants. The United States has never based the citizenship of an individual born here on the basis of the status of their parents. That would be like the sins of the parents going to the children and that's not a doctrine I espouse or believe in. Still, I know there are women who come here for the express purpose of having a child here because they know they can get care and because they're counting on leniency by anyone who might enforce the law. They're betting on the fact they will not be deported because the law will be compassionate and merciful.

So far, they've been winning the bet.

Some enforcing of existing immigration law is beginning to happen in some states, particularly those along the Mexican border. There are results from those laws being enforced. People who are not here illegally are going elsewhere--either another state where enforcement is still lax, or they are returning to their country of origin.

That without any kind of immigration reform.

I have said this before. If you take away the incentives, people will move on. If they can no longer obtain work, they will leave. If employers will spend a little more time checking on social security numbers and green cards, and not hiring those who have false ID, illegal immigration will go down.

Personally, I think there are jobs illegal immigrants do that Americans would do, especially teenagers and single adults. I know there are youth running around wanting something to do. They're thinking of fun and entertainment, but what they really need and have ever shrinking opportunities for because of illegal immigration is work. We have people on welfare that would benefit from a lower wage job while they acquire skills and education to get them off welfare. Whatever other gaps there might be can be filled by legal immigrants who have been competing with the illegal immigrants, and if there's still more jobs to be filled, then I suppose a guest worker program would be in order. I'd like to see just how many jobs are left over before that though, as not all of the 12-20 million illegal immigrants currently residing in this country are all gainfully employed.

I don't think anyone needs to be encouraged to break the law. Shedding positive light on accomplishments of those who shouldn't be here won't make things better. It will only embolden others to do the same thing.

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Property rights in the face of border security

A few days ago, Matt Lewis blogged about a tough decision involving ceding property rights to build a border fence.

In some instances, he said, that might mean giving up acres and acres of land.

Based on the response he received in comments, the overwhelming majority felt that property rights in this particular case should not matter. The security of the border and thus this nation trumped personal property rights.

In fact, many we're indignant that it should be considered otherwise. To the point where I wondered whether or not any rational consideration was given to just what ideals we're espousing here--liberal or conservative.

Apparently, it's okay for the government to take over property when it comes to border protection. Apparently, not only would it be selfish to not want land to be divided up by a fence, it would be unpatriotic and bordering on treason.

Sorry, but I can't see that way.

I don't live in a border state now, but I have lived in one. Illegal immigration has been an ongoing issue all throughout the United States. And if it weren't for 9/11 and how easily the hijackers were able to come into this country, the current crisis would not be as big an issue as it is. Tied into national security, it has been blown out of proportion.

Just as many things have. Security measures put in place in this country do more to infringe on the personal freedom of her citizens than truly protect us from threats. There's just too many ways to come in and out of this country. A free enterprise system and a global economy make it tougher to run inspections and put security measures in place when everything is dependent on the shipments arriving and the transactions taking place.

We head towards isolationism when we build a wall. If we do one on our southern border, it won't be long until we're building one on our norther border, too. And then we'll still have airports and international shipping yards to reinforce, along with train stations and trucking lines. It's already more restrictive to fly in, out and around this country than it was 10 years ago, and will continue to get more and more restrictive, all in the name of security.

Illegal immigration can be solved by reducing or eliminating the incentives that bring people here: work and free health care. That's not going to take place by building a border fence, because people will find other ways to get here.

If employers will actually enforce the current laws regarding documented labor, most if not all of those who are illegally here will move away, eventually back to their own country.

Whole industries will certainly be affected--construction, hospitality, restaurant, landscaping and agricultural, to name the big ones. Personally, I don't think there's a dearth of American workers for those industries. Where I live, there are plenty of teenagers complaining about never having enough to do. There's also plenty of people on welfare that need to transition into some kind of work experience so they can find a better paying job.

Low paying, low skilled labor can still be found in this country without hiring undocumented workers. There's also legal immigration to tap into.

The point isn't to blame our problems on our neighbors to the south, who by and large come here because we offer so many enticements. They want to work, and are willing to work hard for it. They are willing to make sacrifices. In return, those who do find work are rewarded with higher wages than they would back home, while their wives can tap into health care for pregnancies, so they can birth American citizens.

Legal immigration is not the same as illegal immigration. The undocumented do not have the same protections under the law that citizens or legal residents have. Yes, human rights still apply. The rights granted through the United States Constitution, however, do not. That is the difference between a nation of laws, and one without.

In the meantime, no one should be forced to have their property divided or taken away, not even in the name of border security. And especially by those who won't have to suffer the consequences. If someone wants to do so, for love of country or what have you, so be it. We should never be made to do anything against our will. And we should not take for granted what is not ours to grant in the first place.

When we make sacrifice compulsory, not willingly given, when we impose our definition of patriotism and exclude all others, when we mandate one good thing in violation of another, not only do we punish would be allies, people we'll need for another fight, and then another, we weaken the very sovereignty we're hellbent to protect, and we shred our Constitution just a little bit more.

Surely as Americans we can be more forward thinking and innovative than confiscating private property to build a fence. A fence that can be circumvented, scaled, dug under or maybe even knocked down. Surely we can provide a more rational argument for this subject than calling each other names, or worse, believing those who don't think like we do are traitors because they're not willing to give up even an inch of their property or livelihood for our crusade.

These are the United States of America. We are great together because we believe in freedom, even for those who think opposite of what we do. When we give those up, we become no better than those who would take them away from us. We can live in self-made cages, protected, but never free, or we can stand up for ourselves, our country, and all the founding fathers intended this nation to be, and we can live and die free.

Personally, I prefer the latter, because the enemy doesn't win if I remain free. The enemy wins when I no longer am free, either by force or by surrender. I will not give away my freedom, and it will not be taken from me without a fight.


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